08+ to 01 front end conversion?
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08+ to 01 front end conversion?
I've been lurking for a bit, and from what i gathered the cab is the same throughout the models. So i've been plotting what i would need to swap the front end to look a bit more menacing.
Before i start this Frankenstein process, i was wondering if anyone else has tried to swap the fenders/hood/grill/headlights out? i'm planning on ordering all the parts directly from ford (which from the looks of the catalog comes with literaly EVERYTHING needed) and hopefully being a simple swap with little modding or fabricating on my end.
EDIT: I'm sorry i got the title backwards, i meant my 2001 with an 08 or later front end. ><
Before i start this Frankenstein process, i was wondering if anyone else has tried to swap the fenders/hood/grill/headlights out? i'm planning on ordering all the parts directly from ford (which from the looks of the catalog comes with literaly EVERYTHING needed) and hopefully being a simple swap with little modding or fabricating on my end.
EDIT: I'm sorry i got the title backwards, i meant my 2001 with an 08 or later front end. ><
#2
The cab may be close to being the same, butI'm almost 100% certain that the front part of the frame was redesigned for the 08 body style. Something about lower frame rails up front to help the truck not climb over cars in a head on collision seems right, I remember seeing some pre-production models where the parts of the frame there were changed were painted red so you could see the difference, but I can't find those pics anymore. So that means the bumper probably won't line up anywhere close to where it would on an 08, throwing off the grille, then the hood, etc etc. It could probably be done, but it's not going to be a bolt-on type deal.
#4
You're not getting what I'm saying. If frame rails are 5" lower, the bumper mounts 5" lower, but the hood latch hasn't moved, meaning the grille is 5" taller, to fill in the gap between the hood and bumper. That means the grille and the headlights won't fit in the opening, because there is not enough vertical room between the hood and bumper. That's why the front end looks bigger on the 08+ trucks, because there is a larger distance between the top of the hood and the frame rails/bumper, due to the lower frame rails. Even if you put an aftermarket replacement on, it will still mount directly to the frame rails, meaning your truck will have a smaller distance between the hood latch and bumper, meaning the 08 grille will not bolt directly in. Big peg, small hole.
This is similar to like the pre-05 to 05 swaps, where you can either 1. chop the grille down to fit it into the hole, or 2. replace the entire front clip with entirely new parts. The problem you're facing is there is now a frame difference, so option 2 involves cutting parts down to fit into the smaller space.
This is similar to like the pre-05 to 05 swaps, where you can either 1. chop the grille down to fit it into the hole, or 2. replace the entire front clip with entirely new parts. The problem you're facing is there is now a frame difference, so option 2 involves cutting parts down to fit into the smaller space.
#6
The cab may be close to being the same, butI'm almost 100% certain that the front part of the frame was redesigned for the 08 body style. Something about lower frame rails up front to help the truck not climb over cars in a head on collision seems right, I remember seeing some pre-production models where the parts of the frame there were changed were painted red so you could see the difference, but I can't find those pics anymore. So that means the bumper probably won't line up anywhere close to where it would on an 08, throwing off the grille, then the hood, etc etc. It could probably be done, but it's not going to be a bolt-on type deal.
Oh, and the '08s did start doing that "Super Duty" thing on the bottom of the tailgate, and the driver side pivot for the tailgate is different, but I wouldn't technically consider this a body change.
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4X4REVIEW.COM: 2008 Ford F-Series Super Duty
Every 2008 Super Duty frame now has a new front stub designed with safety in mind. By lowering the frame horns seven inches at the front, the new frame meets vehicle compatibility standards without the need for add-on components. The new design also improves cooling and provides a solid foundation for the hydroformed body structure."
"Construction of the '08 Super Duty began with a revised frame. The boxed front rails have been lowered and spaced wider to fit the new cooling system and meet frontal impact standards without the need for the old "blocker bar." The rear frame sections were also modified to accommodate leaf springs that are 8 inches longer than on the previous Super Duty."
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