2008 6.4 Blowing black smoke
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2008 6.4 Blowing black smoke
Hi everyone
Just got my truck back from my local dealer because I had in for servicing and trying to figure out why it blows black smoke. Well after spending 150$ on them to tell me that nothing is wrong even though it blows more smoke then my 6.0l did. The truck is a 08 f350 with 71000km on it. my tail pipe is building up black soot in it and its non stop blowing smoke from every stop and go and everytime i give it a little throttle. Now I know for fact that its not normal. Can anyone give me any inout into this issue? Seeing as there is no computer issue they say its fine and no problems were found.
Thanks
Just got my truck back from my local dealer because I had in for servicing and trying to figure out why it blows black smoke. Well after spending 150$ on them to tell me that nothing is wrong even though it blows more smoke then my 6.0l did. The truck is a 08 f350 with 71000km on it. my tail pipe is building up black soot in it and its non stop blowing smoke from every stop and go and everytime i give it a little throttle. Now I know for fact that its not normal. Can anyone give me any inout into this issue? Seeing as there is no computer issue they say its fine and no problems were found.
Thanks
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Here in the states there is emissions component coverage, don't know about where you are. So first I think I would check the warranty on emissions so you know where you stand on costs.
Black smoke is a violation since 08 model year. Your tips should be clean. Typically the black tips and smoke is in indication of a failed DPF, however what else did they check?
I maybe a fueling or a sensor problem as well. Did they reflash the PCM or check for codes?
Sounds to me like you need a new dealer. How is the mileage and performance? Also how often are you regening?
Black smoke is a violation since 08 model year. Your tips should be clean. Typically the black tips and smoke is in indication of a failed DPF, however what else did they check?
I maybe a fueling or a sensor problem as well. Did they reflash the PCM or check for codes?
Sounds to me like you need a new dealer. How is the mileage and performance? Also how often are you regening?
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My guess is that you live in Canada but the US mandated to hane close to no particulates. If your mileage has gone up and and you are getting black smoke, most likely your DPF is cracked. If they say it is normal I would request Ford Customer service to give you a written statement saying it is normal.
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Here in the states there is emissions component coverage, don't know about where you are. So first I think I would check the warranty on emissions so you know where you stand on costs.
The emissions control is the same up here in canada as you guys down south.
Black smoke is a violation since 08 model year. Your tips should be clean. Typically the black tips and smoke is in indication of a failed DPF, however what else did they check?
My tips are building up a hard black coarting in the tips. I am not sure what they check since they said the smoke is normal becaues the 7.3 and 6.0 did it LOL.
I maybe a fueling or a sensor problem as well. Did they reflash the PCM or check for codes?
They did not reflash the pcm and they said there was no codes so there is nothing wrong. Because last time I checked you needed a code to warrant a poblem
Sounds to me like you need a new dealer. How is the mileage and performance? Also how often are you regening?
My performance is lagging a bit and the milage is going to crap,over the last few months it has gone from 17L for 100km to 22L for 100km.
Because of this treatmeant I am now going to be driving 4 hours to use my old dealer. Never in my life have I ever been treated like such crap by a dealership.
The emissions control is the same up here in canada as you guys down south.
Black smoke is a violation since 08 model year. Your tips should be clean. Typically the black tips and smoke is in indication of a failed DPF, however what else did they check?
My tips are building up a hard black coarting in the tips. I am not sure what they check since they said the smoke is normal becaues the 7.3 and 6.0 did it LOL.
I maybe a fueling or a sensor problem as well. Did they reflash the PCM or check for codes?
They did not reflash the pcm and they said there was no codes so there is nothing wrong. Because last time I checked you needed a code to warrant a poblem
Sounds to me like you need a new dealer. How is the mileage and performance? Also how often are you regening?
My performance is lagging a bit and the milage is going to crap,over the last few months it has gone from 17L for 100km to 22L for 100km.
Because of this treatmeant I am now going to be driving 4 hours to use my old dealer. Never in my life have I ever been treated like such crap by a dealership.
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I went through the same process here in Canada. I asked them to call ford tech line about it, as they told me it was normal as well because everything checked out ok (no codes). Tech line told them to replace the dpf as the only way particulates like that ( black smoke ) is if there is a problem internally in the dpf. After they replaced it the problem was fixed.
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Not yet,this all jsut happened yesterday and today is Canada day so they are closed. But I am calling them to tomorrow about the issue. The truck was in for the damp days white smoke issue too but they couldnt find a problem with the motor and I had even told them about the TSB 08-25-1. THis dealership is just ignorant.
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Not yet,this all jsut happened yesterday and today is Canada day so they are closed. But I am calling them to tomorrow about the issue. The truck was in for the damp days white smoke issue too but they couldnt find a problem with the motor and I had even told them about the TSB 08-25-1. THis dealership is just ignorant.
Where in Canada ?
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UPDATE
I was back at the fine dealership that said my truck was fine yesterday after I had a little chat for Ford Canada. I was told to talk to their other service manager which I did this time. When I told him the white smoke issue he knew right away what the problem was and said the inter cooler is the issue. Which I tried to explain the first time I was there but noone listened. So then I took him for a drive so he could see the black smoke. Right from the time we left the parking lot he laughed saying his 99 7.3 doesnt smoke like that and there is noway that is normal. So this guy said he will take care of everything for me and get my money back and that he is sorry it ever came to this and I did the right thing by calling Ford Canada. So it goes in on wednesday and Ill let you know the verdict this time
I was back at the fine dealership that said my truck was fine yesterday after I had a little chat for Ford Canada. I was told to talk to their other service manager which I did this time. When I told him the white smoke issue he knew right away what the problem was and said the inter cooler is the issue. Which I tried to explain the first time I was there but noone listened. So then I took him for a drive so he could see the black smoke. Right from the time we left the parking lot he laughed saying his 99 7.3 doesnt smoke like that and there is noway that is normal. So this guy said he will take care of everything for me and get my money back and that he is sorry it ever came to this and I did the right thing by calling Ford Canada. So it goes in on wednesday and Ill let you know the verdict this time
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