Boy did I get lucky...
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Boy did I get lucky...
OK so, I've been having issues with the heads on my truck since the day I bought it - without going into a bunch of detail I've already outlined in other forums on this site, I've had 2 exhaust valve seats crap out on me and sink the valves into the head - I fixed one and a little later, the other one crapped out...
Well, I decided to buy another set of heads and have them re-worked before putting them on the truck - I'm also planning on swapping in a CompCams cam/lifter set with a straight-up timing set...
I found a set of 351M/400 heads on a '79 F250 at Bailey's Auto Wrecking in Pocatello - However, when I got around to buying them, they had crushed the truck - heads go bye-bye...
So I dig around some more and found another yard that claimed to have heads - Wayne's Salvage Parts, also in Pocatello. I go there and talk to Doug - he first leads me to an old Chevy van he was using to store a pile of random heads - we found a pair of 351M/400 heads but they were in the most ungawdly condition - bigtime rust... He then leads me to an '83 F350 that had a '77 400 transplanted into it, but one of the heads was already removed...
That's when he tells me he has a '76 Econoline with a Cleveland in it... I was thinking maybe an M but when we went to look at it - yup, it's a Cleveland... The rocker covers were missing but the heads looked to be in remarkably good condition and the first thing I noticed were the valve stem seals - they looked to be in too good of condition to be on an engine that old. I decided to get these heads...
From what I just found out on the 335 forum, these are D1AE 2V Cleveland heads ('70-'74)...
And, here's the kicker - they've been re-worked some time in the past... The exhaust valves have all had hardened seats installed and all the valves are sitting nice and pretty - this would also explain the valve stem seals...
$35.00 each...
If anyone is looking for a Cleveland block, it's still sitting in that van - without the heads
Now, I just need to dig up enough money for the rest of the parts... lol...
Well, I decided to buy another set of heads and have them re-worked before putting them on the truck - I'm also planning on swapping in a CompCams cam/lifter set with a straight-up timing set...
I found a set of 351M/400 heads on a '79 F250 at Bailey's Auto Wrecking in Pocatello - However, when I got around to buying them, they had crushed the truck - heads go bye-bye...
So I dig around some more and found another yard that claimed to have heads - Wayne's Salvage Parts, also in Pocatello. I go there and talk to Doug - he first leads me to an old Chevy van he was using to store a pile of random heads - we found a pair of 351M/400 heads but they were in the most ungawdly condition - bigtime rust... He then leads me to an '83 F350 that had a '77 400 transplanted into it, but one of the heads was already removed...
That's when he tells me he has a '76 Econoline with a Cleveland in it... I was thinking maybe an M but when we went to look at it - yup, it's a Cleveland... The rocker covers were missing but the heads looked to be in remarkably good condition and the first thing I noticed were the valve stem seals - they looked to be in too good of condition to be on an engine that old. I decided to get these heads...
From what I just found out on the 335 forum, these are D1AE 2V Cleveland heads ('70-'74)...
And, here's the kicker - they've been re-worked some time in the past... The exhaust valves have all had hardened seats installed and all the valves are sitting nice and pretty - this would also explain the valve stem seals...
$35.00 each...
If anyone is looking for a Cleveland block, it's still sitting in that van - without the heads
Now, I just need to dig up enough money for the rest of the parts... lol...
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I'm having them hot-tanked and magnafluxed - I may have jumped the gun on the hardened seat thing but we'll know for sure after they've been cleaned...
Don't know yet if they have 2-piece valves - I'm really hoping not as I don't want to have to go through and replace the valves and guides - especially if the angles don't match the seats... These valves have oversized stems (+3) so I'm thinking they're not original and that the guides have been reamed...
Don't know yet if they have 2-piece valves - I'm really hoping not as I don't want to have to go through and replace the valves and guides - especially if the angles don't match the seats... These valves have oversized stems (+3) so I'm thinking they're not original and that the guides have been reamed...
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I work in Pocatello so I did some asking around and people I talked to recommended Karl's Machine Shop on N. Main - he said he was about 3-weeks behind on stuff but he would try to work my heads in sometime in-between - I told him I wasn't in a big hurry for them... He's charging me $60.00 to hot-tank and magnaflux them...
I've also heard good things about Precision Machine in Chubbuck, but I haven't had anything done by them yet...
I've had work done before at the Kirkham's machine shop in Blackfoot, but they're a bit on the pricey side...
I've also heard good things about Precision Machine in Chubbuck, but I haven't had anything done by them yet...
I've had work done before at the Kirkham's machine shop in Blackfoot, but they're a bit on the pricey side...