460 best cruising rpm?
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460 best cruising rpm?
I have a 83 F350 DRW and I am putting a ZF 5 peed in. I am also putting new diffs in front and back. trying to get rear gear for for highway, and I have a set of 3.55s that would have it turning at about 1800 to 2100 during normal highway driving. Is that a good gear set up/cruising speed?
I am going for MPG and towing, I have no problem down shifting at every hill towing if that is what it takes it get better MPGs.
thanks
bill
I am going for MPG and towing, I have no problem down shifting at every hill towing if that is what it takes it get better MPGs.
thanks
bill
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I ran a small fleet of F250HD's towing ridiculous! loads on gooseneck trailers from the late 70's to the early 90's. The sweet spot for 460's mileage seemed to be 3.08's direct running solo but most of ours were 4.10's. To many RPM's is overspeed, too few is lugging. Not sure what the OD ratio is on a ZF is but you can go from there.
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I ran a small fleet of F250HD's towing ridiculous! loads on gooseneck trailers from the late 70's to the early 90's. The sweet spot for 460's mileage seemed to be 3.08's direct running solo but most of ours were 4.10's. To many RPM's is overspeed, too few is lugging. Not sure what the OD ratio is on a ZF is but you can go from there.
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NEVER tow in OD. It stresses the engine as well as the rest of the drive train.
Best towing RPM is ALWAYS at peak torque.
That said my 1984 F250 with 460, C6 and 4.10s at 2800 rpm is right at 56 mph. Going slow is a major mileage improver. If I run over 60 mph I get 7.5 mpg or less. Slow down to 55 to 58 mph I get 9 to 10 mpg. Both of those numbers are with no camper, just the dually flatbed ATV trailer.
My 1999 Ranger with 4.0, ED and 3.55s tows best in 3rd gear and on hills in 2nd same trailer as above. Alone in O/D the truck gets 24 mpg highway.
Best towing RPM is ALWAYS at peak torque.
That said my 1984 F250 with 460, C6 and 4.10s at 2800 rpm is right at 56 mph. Going slow is a major mileage improver. If I run over 60 mph I get 7.5 mpg or less. Slow down to 55 to 58 mph I get 9 to 10 mpg. Both of those numbers are with no camper, just the dually flatbed ATV trailer.
My 1999 Ranger with 4.0, ED and 3.55s tows best in 3rd gear and on hills in 2nd same trailer as above. Alone in O/D the truck gets 24 mpg highway.
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In a nutshell; higher vacuum readings=more efficiency=better mileage. It is amazing how much difference a "lighter foot" can make and this little gauge can show you how. Cruise at a given speed and you'd be amazed how much vacuum you can increase and not lose speed. I've also added a micro switch and a cowl mounted indicator light to let me know when the secondaries start to open. Then I can decide if I want to back off or go for it.
That said my 1984 F250 with 460, C6 and 4.10s at 2800 rpm is right at 56 mph. Going slow is a major mileage improver. If I run over 60 mph I get 7.5 mpg or less. Slow down to 55 to 58 mph I get 9 to 10 mpg. Both of those numbers are with no camper, just the dually flatbed ATV trailer.
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My "Carb Guy" reinstalled the OE 4180 dual stage power valve on my last rebuild. I need to ask him this!!! Thanks for the thought beetle!!
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I always run a dual stage power valve in my tow rigs. But I doubt very much it is the same value as the 4180, AKA an emissions carb and not a mileage or power carb and I removed it as some as it was feasible. I found a properly set up Holley 4160, LIST-1850, 600 CFM carb increased power and mileage by about 1 1/2 mpg.
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Sounds good Bear, but if my "Carb Guy" Pat told me to cover the outside of my carb with chunky peanut butter I would likely have a messy engine that smelled REAL GOOD when it got warm.
Before the last rebuild we had a long discussion on replacing the OE carb with something else. Pat knows my truck, my truck usage and as far as I'm concerned damn near everything there is to know about carbs. IMHO (and many others too I might add) he is the premier carb person in Minnesota ... whatever that is worth in the international scheme of things ... and also my friend.
The 4160 may do well for you, but as I stated, I'm doing mid to upper 7's towing a 10,000# windanchor and I'm smilin'
Before the last rebuild we had a long discussion on replacing the OE carb with something else. Pat knows my truck, my truck usage and as far as I'm concerned damn near everything there is to know about carbs. IMHO (and many others too I might add) he is the premier carb person in Minnesota ... whatever that is worth in the international scheme of things ... and also my friend.
The 4160 may do well for you, but as I stated, I'm doing mid to upper 7's towing a 10,000# windanchor and I'm smilin'
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Sounds good Bear, but if my "Carb Guy" Pat told me to cover the outside of my carb with chunky peanut butter I would likely have a messy engine that smelled REAL GOOD when it got warm.
Before the last rebuild we had a long discussion on replacing the OE carb with something else. Pat knows my truck, my truck usage and as far as I'm concerned damn near everything there is to know about carbs. IMHO (and many others too I might add) he is the premier carb person in Minnesota ... whatever that is worth in the international scheme of things ... and also my friend.
The 4160 may do well for you, but as I stated, I'm doing mid to upper 7's towing a 10,000# windanchor and I'm smilin'
Before the last rebuild we had a long discussion on replacing the OE carb with something else. Pat knows my truck, my truck usage and as far as I'm concerned damn near everything there is to know about carbs. IMHO (and many others too I might add) he is the premier carb person in Minnesota ... whatever that is worth in the international scheme of things ... and also my friend.
The 4160 may do well for you, but as I stated, I'm doing mid to upper 7's towing a 10,000# windanchor and I'm smilin'