Generic Electronic Module (GEM)
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OK - Jock D, you were a great help in getting the GEM out. Now that it is out and I have no obvious signs of corrosion or 'badness' what should I do? It appears that based on all the truck issues I have that my GEM is going bad - I would have bet money on corroded connectors because of the off and on nature and the wide variety of problems.
Do I just replace it now?
Do I just replace it now?
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I am not a GEM expert, but in troubleshooting one on my 2001 I tried another GEM from a similar truck that had more options and it did not work well at all. It makes me think that the combination of options and programming are very specific to the way the truck is optioned, but is not unique to only one truck. Based on that, I would not try to replace a GEM with a used one unless it was for the same year truck with exactly the same options (at least those controlled by the GEM).
The safe thing to do would be buy a new one and have the dealer (or someone with a tool that can program the GEM) set it up for the few field-programmable options. I think tire size and something else.
Appytaxi, I was not following this thread, but my suggestion would be to check out the sensors and wiring that control the GEM function that is giving you trouble before you invest in an expensive new GEM. Try to eliminate the less expensive stuff as the problem!
The safe thing to do would be buy a new one and have the dealer (or someone with a tool that can program the GEM) set it up for the few field-programmable options. I think tire size and something else.
Appytaxi, I was not following this thread, but my suggestion would be to check out the sensors and wiring that control the GEM function that is giving you trouble before you invest in an expensive new GEM. Try to eliminate the less expensive stuff as the problem!
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I am not a GEM expert, but in troubleshooting one on my 2001 I tried another GEM from a similar truck that had more options and it did not work well at all. It makes me think that the combination of options and programming are very specific to the way the truck is optioned, but is not unique to only one truck. Based on that, I would not try to replace a GEM with a used one unless it was for the same year truck with exactly the same options (at least those controlled by the GEM).
The safe thing to do would be buy a new one and have the dealer (or someone with a tool that can program the GEM) set it up for the few field-programmable options. I think tire size and something else.
Appytaxi, I was not following this thread, but my suggestion would be to check out the sensors and wiring that control the GEM function that is giving you trouble before you invest in an expensive new GEM. Try to eliminate the less expensive stuff as the problem!
The safe thing to do would be buy a new one and have the dealer (or someone with a tool that can program the GEM) set it up for the few field-programmable options. I think tire size and something else.
Appytaxi, I was not following this thread, but my suggestion would be to check out the sensors and wiring that control the GEM function that is giving you trouble before you invest in an expensive new GEM. Try to eliminate the less expensive stuff as the problem!
I am actually running a 2001 PCM, and 2000 GEM in my Early 99'
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Thanks Guys,
I did see a tiny itty bitty bit of corrosion on the GEM so I got it cleaned up and put back together (that was fun) and the truck started up great. 3 days later it wouldnt start again. there is no sign of water or dampness in the Gem - it looks perfect. Now we are going back to the car alarm because there seems to be a correlation there too - like the kill switch is malfunctioning.
BTW some GEMs are plug and play - the E version for this truck is and that is what I have.
If Car Toys finds that it isnt the alarm then I guess it is back to wires and electrical stuff (which just confuses the heck outta me)
I did see a tiny itty bitty bit of corrosion on the GEM so I got it cleaned up and put back together (that was fun) and the truck started up great. 3 days later it wouldnt start again. there is no sign of water or dampness in the Gem - it looks perfect. Now we are going back to the car alarm because there seems to be a correlation there too - like the kill switch is malfunctioning.
BTW some GEMs are plug and play - the E version for this truck is and that is what I have.
If Car Toys finds that it isnt the alarm then I guess it is back to wires and electrical stuff (which just confuses the heck outta me)
#29
Mine was acting funny in the fall because water was leaking in somewhere and getting to the GEM somehow. I had the windshield pressure tested and it tested good, so I took some black epoxy and sealed every hole in the firewall on the driver side. No more problems since.
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