Just in case I missed the thread here...I figured I'd share this info for anyone who missed it too.

2009 F150 5.4L

Regular Unleaded:
HP = 310 hp
Torque = 365 ft/lbs

E85 Version
HP = 320 hp
Torque = 390 ft/lbs


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hmm that's a bit of a disappointment dont you think.. they could of done a bit better especially with everyone else pushing ATLEAST 330+ and getting the Same if not BETTER MPG. granted trucks ain't selling like they used to but still..come on

 

i could care less..im sure it will still outsell all its competitors

 

Those don't make sense to me, because isn't e85 usually less powerful than gas?

 

where did you see this? just curious..

That is a bit of a dissapointment considering people can get more gains out of a CAI and tuner out of an 04-08...

E85 is also much higher octane = able to run more timing = more complete burn = more power. works even better w/ forced induction setups...

 

i heard e85 is corrosive.can some1 tell me if thats true

 

I call BS. Ethanol "higher" octane rating is not equivilant to gasoline. It will not prevent predetonation. This has been discussed a billion times by now but ethanol only has @ 2/3ds the nrg of gasoline, so how would a fuel with less nrg somehow produce more power? I can't recall the models but in the past when Ford has had two tiers of output ratings the Ethanol figures were the lower...

 

Owning an FFV and using E85, I can actually feel a slight, very slight (seat of the pants) increase in performance when running E85. Also from what I've read, E85 can produce more power, it's all based on the compression rate of the motor. If a motor was built soley for E85, the compression rate being considerably higher than gasoline, then you'd get more power and better mpgs when running E85 than gasoline. The reason E85 is so bad on mpgs currently is due to the motors needing a lower compression ratio for gasoline, decreasing E85's efficiency.

 

I see said the blind man.

So the new 5.4L would then have to able be able to variable adjust compresion based on actual belnd of ethanol in the fuel? So then if after a full tank of e85, if I put in 100% gasoline then it would detmine this and lower compresion as I drive? Or would it be all or nothing in that if it detects e85 I'm running higher, then if a retailer is not honest and actual mix is "e78" I don't get the benefit? Just some q that pop up in my head.

 

Never seen Ford published figures showing lower ethanol firgures. Of course I've never seen Ford provide 2 different set of numbers on any motor, unless they were tuned differently for different applications (ie 4.6L F150 vs Stang).

 

My dealer was telling my it was a ranger or taurus a few years back. Can't recall. But ethanol was lower.

 

Must have been the 3.0L that I had in my '99 Ranger that was also in the Tauras. Never used E85 at the time or looked into it, but can't say for sure if this was true or not.

 

I'm not sure how they'd make a motor adjust compression, that's a lot more advanced than what they have in their FFV's currently. Currently from what I've read, there is just a sensor that determines how much alcohol is present and adjusts the air/fuel mixture and makes sure the system doesn't show it's running lean on E85.

 

And you got those #'s From Where exactly has it been from ford????

 

These figures showed up on the 2009 Expedition Order Guide. It could be different from the F150, but I doubt it. The E85 figures were not on the Expedition Order Guide.