E10 and old vehicles.
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E10 and old vehicles.
E10 is making its way into Ga. I found this out two days ago when after I started pumping my gas at a shell in conyers I read on the pump this gas may contain 10% ethanol. Some of the older equipment such as fuel lines, gaskets in carbs and seals in fuel pumps contain natural rubber. As most of you probably know alcohol eats natural rubber. If you have replaced all your rubber lines and fuel pump sometime in the past few years you are fine with those. If your carb has been replaced or rebuilt in the past few years it will be fine to. All the new fuel pumps and carbs and all the carb rebuild kits are alcohol resistant. I wish I knew exactly the cutoff year when they stopped using the natural rubber but I don't.
Another thing too think about alcohol cleans very well so when you first start running it, it will clean your tank, lines and everything it comes in contact with. The stuff it cuts loose can clog your fuel filter so it would not be a bad idea to keep an extra fuel filter in your vehicle for that time you introduce it to E10. Not a bad idea to have an extra anyway.
Everything fuel related that could have been damaged was new except my fuel pump. I got out very easily all I had to replace was the fuel pump and filter. Those natural rubber seals in that fuel pump died in about 60 miles with e10. The new pump will be fine with it and I will have a much cleaner fuel delivery system.
Imho opinion E10 is fine but some of the real old vehicles will have to be adapted.
Another thing too think about alcohol cleans very well so when you first start running it, it will clean your tank, lines and everything it comes in contact with. The stuff it cuts loose can clog your fuel filter so it would not be a bad idea to keep an extra fuel filter in your vehicle for that time you introduce it to E10. Not a bad idea to have an extra anyway.
Everything fuel related that could have been damaged was new except my fuel pump. I got out very easily all I had to replace was the fuel pump and filter. Those natural rubber seals in that fuel pump died in about 60 miles with e10. The new pump will be fine with it and I will have a much cleaner fuel delivery system.
Imho opinion E10 is fine but some of the real old vehicles will have to be adapted.
Last edited by 70blue; 03-10-2007 at 02:22 PM.
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The good thing is they are supposed to put a sticker on the pump to let you know. My problem is I was not expecting it so I was already pumping before I saw the sticker. That is why I posted this so everyone would be on guard. Since everything is now upgraded to modern standards fuel wise on my truck I will happily use E10 anytime. That stuff cleans everything it comes in contact with. I just wish they would hurry up and get that E85 here so I could build myself a sure enough high compression engine to play with.
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I have a feeling when they build that georgia ethanol plant they are talking about you probably won't have many stations in the southeast selling gas without it. About the only mixed gas you may wind up getting cheaper is the E85 when it comes out due to government subsidies. Alcohol costs more than gas though.
Last edited by 70blue; 03-11-2007 at 06:01 PM.
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I dunno for sure but I would not use it unless I built a high compression engine to take advantage of the high octane. It is not as fuel efficient from what I hear. They say you have to have larger jets in a carb. I am not sure about all the mods you have to do for it. Their are alot of flex fuel vehicles out there already designed to run E85.
I could be very wrong but I think the old fashioned tanks would work as long as something besides rust is holding them together.
I could be very wrong but I think the old fashioned tanks would work as long as something besides rust is holding them together.
Last edited by 70blue; 03-11-2007 at 07:11 PM.