Tahoe going to save Chevrolet?
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I think initial sales will be pretty good because the current version looked the same for so long. The dedicated owners of the current version have been waiting so their new vehicle wouldn't look just like the one they currently have. I'm sure it will be vastly better than the old one because of the long run of the old one and the market has gotten far more competative due to the entrance of large SUVs from foreign brands. In the long run, I think the entire large SUV market is going to shrink dramatically. It was the family tow vehicle for years but 4 door large trucks are taking that market.
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The Tahoe as been a good truck for quite a while, but with a few little annoyances, like an interior that looked like it came from a Kia, and a brake pedal that felt like it was going to go to the floor every time you stepped on it. They've fixed both of those problems in the new one, so I'd wager it is now an excellent truck.
As for the size, it is small because it slots BELOW the Suburban in the Chevy marketing scheme. If potential buyers think the Tahoe is too small, then they can step up to the Suburban, which is just a bigger Tahoe. If, however, the Tahoe were to grow, then Chevy might lose customers who don't want anything bigger than the Tahoe, but do want bigger than the Trailblazer.
I for one, think that the whole big SUV, family 4-door pickup market is going to shrink in the next few years, once people realize that gas prices are probably going to stay above $2 into the forseeable future (as every source I've read says) and lots of them don't need vehicles that big. (Who knows, they might even realize that smaller cars are easier to park and handle better...)
As for the size, it is small because it slots BELOW the Suburban in the Chevy marketing scheme. If potential buyers think the Tahoe is too small, then they can step up to the Suburban, which is just a bigger Tahoe. If, however, the Tahoe were to grow, then Chevy might lose customers who don't want anything bigger than the Tahoe, but do want bigger than the Trailblazer.
I for one, think that the whole big SUV, family 4-door pickup market is going to shrink in the next few years, once people realize that gas prices are probably going to stay above $2 into the forseeable future (as every source I've read says) and lots of them don't need vehicles that big. (Who knows, they might even realize that smaller cars are easier to park and handle better...)
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4wd The local chevy dealer has had one parked out front for about month. A pretty black LS pkg. Hasn't moved an inch. Maybe sticker shock---North of 40k!
The reason he's still got it is "Black LS." If it was a Black LTZ with a $53,000 sticker, it'd be long gone. This is a wierd market- the lower-equipment levels are saleproof, the loaded stuff flies out the door.
95250mac What do you think about the 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe?
Some say better others say worse, it does have the jump on the Expedition as far as release dates, Ford will not be out untill Fall of 2006.
What I can't understand is why it is still so small.
Define "small." It's about 10" shorter than a Suburban, but was styled to look smaller than it is. This is a product GM does well- they understand the buyer, which is the biggest factor in their 60% market share in full-size SUV's. It's not any bigger because the affluent soccer moms that drive these things like the size- especially the low height. If it sacrifices ground clearance- tough. Most of them never see anything taller than a speed bump to clear anyway.
Will the Tahoe save GM? No, the GMT900 (new Silverado) has that role- the Tahoe's just the supporting cast.
The reason he's still got it is "Black LS." If it was a Black LTZ with a $53,000 sticker, it'd be long gone. This is a wierd market- the lower-equipment levels are saleproof, the loaded stuff flies out the door.
95250mac What do you think about the 2007 Chevrolet Tahoe?
Some say better others say worse, it does have the jump on the Expedition as far as release dates, Ford will not be out untill Fall of 2006.
What I can't understand is why it is still so small.
Define "small." It's about 10" shorter than a Suburban, but was styled to look smaller than it is. This is a product GM does well- they understand the buyer, which is the biggest factor in their 60% market share in full-size SUV's. It's not any bigger because the affluent soccer moms that drive these things like the size- especially the low height. If it sacrifices ground clearance- tough. Most of them never see anything taller than a speed bump to clear anyway.
Will the Tahoe save GM? No, the GMT900 (new Silverado) has that role- the Tahoe's just the supporting cast.
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Ooof.
Base prices are in the high 30K ranger and options toss that figure into the 50's....
I doubt that appeals to a huge bunch of the consumer these days, who have been cutting back on the excess of the 90s these days.
Hybrid for 2008 seems interesting, moreso than 15c/21h MPG ratings. If those are the granny EPA figures, maybe the actual figures over time come close with the cylinder deactivation.
I would have really been excited if GM halved a Duramax and lobbed in a 3.3L I4 or thereabouts.
Base prices are in the high 30K ranger and options toss that figure into the 50's....
I doubt that appeals to a huge bunch of the consumer these days, who have been cutting back on the excess of the 90s these days.
Hybrid for 2008 seems interesting, moreso than 15c/21h MPG ratings. If those are the granny EPA figures, maybe the actual figures over time come close with the cylinder deactivation.
I would have really been excited if GM halved a Duramax and lobbed in a 3.3L I4 or thereabouts.
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Originally Posted by AlfredB1979
Ooof.
Base prices are in the high 30K ranger and options toss that figure into the 50's....
I doubt that appeals to a huge bunch of the consumer these days, who have been cutting back on the excess of the 90s these days.
Hybrid for 2008 seems interesting, moreso than 15c/21h MPG ratings. If those are the granny EPA figures, maybe the actual figures over time come close with the cylinder deactivation.
I would have really been excited if GM halved a Duramax and lobbed in a 3.3L I4 or thereabouts.
Base prices are in the high 30K ranger and options toss that figure into the 50's....
I doubt that appeals to a huge bunch of the consumer these days, who have been cutting back on the excess of the 90s these days.
Hybrid for 2008 seems interesting, moreso than 15c/21h MPG ratings. If those are the granny EPA figures, maybe the actual figures over time come close with the cylinder deactivation.
I would have really been excited if GM halved a Duramax and lobbed in a 3.3L I4 or thereabouts.
In a Ford store, in a logging/farming town of 4500 people, the average new transaction price is over $40,000. A rural Ford store, mind you- not a Lexus store. Mercedes sales are up over 15% from last year. BMW kicked over 100,000 3-series out the door last year. To put that into perspective, the little Bimmer outsold the 500.
The softest part of the truck market is the compact sector- it keeps shrinking in total numbers, even though the price of fuel increases. Why? Simple- those that can afford a new car or truck can really afford one, while those on the margins (eg, the entry level markets) are being pushed into used. It's not a healthy thing, mind you- but it's fact.
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Originally Posted by 73Fastbackv10
The keyword there is "rating". One car mag, either Car and Driver or Motor Trend, got a cool 13 observed mpgs.
That's why I am not jumping right now. I'll give it a little time to get out on the streets and see what owners are saying. I really don't put a lot of faith in those "pro import" rags.