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Old 04-12-2012, 09:58 PM
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dewatering wvo

Guys, i'm stumped. My eyes are popping outta my head, and get'n a knarly headache reading anything/everything pertaining to this... Did a batch and after settling, did the crackle test, just to see bubbles under the oil. Its been settling for 12+hrs, along with heated to 200+*F. I then passed it thru a 50/20/5 micron filters, hoping it would catch what water was remaining, but to no prevail. Am i missing a step, man i'm ready to pull trigger on a centrifuge. Appreciate any input fellas.
 
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I used to have water problems too until I was told about Magnesol. A bonus of using it is that it also removes water from Bio. Only drawback is you need to filter more than 5 microns.
 
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Appreciate the feedback, Trent. Ya, i'm bug'n out here. Can not for life of me understand WHAT's goin on. My set-up is exactly how this other kats' is...etc. I'm thinking, about the "fanning" ofthe oil. I saw a thread where they used firesprinkler head to "dewater". Well, my bro inlaw has a company in this field. Gonna pick a few up, pipe off the pump, and see what happens.

Magnesol....what/where 's that..lol
 
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Google it, expains better than I can. In a nutshell removes impurities along with water and methanol from biodiesel. I assumed you were making bio?
 
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How are you getting the oil to the filter? Just sucking good oil off the top of a jug or pouring into a barrel filter?

FWIW, I just settle in the sun and suck good off the top and run through a water trap fuel filter. Only done one water test in 8 years and it didn't crackle too bad so I never changed my method. I also run a water trap filter on the truck, I figure if it gets past 2 filters it must my lucky day to sit on the side of the road.....
 
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You sound like you do more than we do. We filter though a paint filter for a 5 gallon bucket into a 55 gallon barrell. (see gallery) After settling for a couple days, the oil then goes into the prcessor from a spicot that is mounted at the 10 gallon level. there is another spicot on the bottom for draining the crap that settles to the bottom.
 
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Originally Posted by 444dieselrod
How are you getting the oil to the filter? Just sucking good oil off the top of a jug or pouring into a barrel filter?
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Gravity fed to pump, then pump thru a 3-stage filter setup..(pics in album). I just got back from HD, so, gonna re-plum the left side of pump to incorporatethe "spray" drying effect.

Onboard, trucks' system has a fuel/water seperator filter, but if i can at all, eliminate most of the H2O, then gonna try it.
 
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I just looked at your album, assuming the black barrel is your heat and settle barrel and the blue is your final after filter barrel. One thing I see is your suction line on the black barrel is so low, I would move it up atleast 6" from the bottom, same with the blue.

What are you bringing the oil home in? I get all mine in 5 gallon cubies right from the bar, they clean the fryers hot then dump the oil so by the time it gets to me its already settled somewhat, I can clearly see the good oil on top, some water/fat on the bottom. I just suck the good oil off the top and leave the rest in the cubie. Looking at your setup you could easily add something to suck oil out of a barrel/cubie and pump it into the black barrel, just add a few more valves and T fittings.

I realy like your set-up in the truck box, looks very neat and clean. have you had any trouble with the water trap filter filling with water or just the crackel test?

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Originally Posted by Rushmore X
You sound like you do more than we do. We filter though a paint filter for a 5 gallon bucket into a 55 gallon barrell. (see gallery) After settling for a couple days, the oil then goes into the prcessor from a spicot that is mounted at the 10 gallon level. there is another spicot on the bottom for draining the crap that settles to the bottom.
Here is my entire method. I get the oil in the 5 gallon Cubies right from the bar, sometimes 1, other times 2. They have already settle quite well because they put the oil in the cubie hot. I get them on a friday, I usually let them sit out in the sun for a week or 2 depending how busy I am. then I'll run the oil through my cream seperator just for kicks then it goes into a 60 gallon holding tank. after sitting in there for how ever long I pump it through a Golden Rod Fuel/Water filter only heating to 100º so it doesnt pump so hard, right into my truck. I also have a fuel/water filter with an electric pump on the truck.

The system is ever changing and hopefully by the end of summer I will have a 55 gallon clear solar powered settling tank on the roof of my WVO shed. 7 years ago I just settled and pumped into the truck through a similar filter. the cream seperator was a recent addition this winter, dont know if it does any good or not.

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Originally Posted by 444dieselrod
I just looked at your album, assuming the black barrel is your heat and settle barrel and the blue is your final after filter barrel. One thing I see is your suction line on the black barrel is so low, I would move it up atleast 6" from the bottom, same with the blue.

I realy like your set-up in the truck box, looks very neat and clean. have you had any trouble with the water trap filter filling with water or just the crackel test?

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Diesel Rod, forgot about this pic, but should cure the problem of pickup in black tank being looowww... Thanks man for the compliment. I set it up that way, for when smog time comes, its just a matter of unhooking a few things and disconnecting a couple of wires, then BAM, passes visual...

Crap, cant post pics, but its in album... i got a cone welded to bottom of black drum for crap and water settling...
 
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