Your right sir! I know nothing is gonna give me more towing capability without completely changing everything. I meant to level it out. Maybe in short time I can upgrade into a dually to be under the limits. I just cant do it right now. Thanks

 

Runchoo, im in the same boat. I have a 2011 f250 6.7 crew cab short bed. I tow a 07 Cyclone with a gross weight 18k. My truck sags pretty bad but with air bags it helps your ride out a lot and believe it or it your braking as well. Nice toy hauler. My wife and I saw those at the rv show last year we wanted one bad but not for 80k

 

Gsrx1300. The sticker shows a little over 2000.

 

Fill your truck up with all the stuff you take camping. this includes folks, fuel, firewood, etc. then go down to the local CAT scale and weigh it. Now you take those numbers and subtract from GVWR to get your max rating. you can also subtract actual rear axle weight from GRAW to know what your available pin capacity is. just looking at cab stickers and owners manuals is just farting in the wind until you have some real world numbers

airbags are just a bandaid for an overloaded situation

Barney

 

I just picked up the trailer yesterday and towed it about 100 miles through hills to get back home. It towed it fine & the air bags leveled it out beautifully. I love the toy hauler my previous one (32' Attitude) had no living room slides and no garage. Thanks for the resonse take care and enjoy the year!

 

Adding F-350 springs will but I wonder if Ford would change the door sticker.

 

Here's food for thought. As far as weights go on the frame and axles only... ever think about subtracting the weight of the tires and wheels, providing their limits aren't exceeded? Let's say my truck weighs 7,300 lbs. The GVWR is 10,000 lbs. So 10,000 minus 7,300 = 2,700 lbs. payload.. but my tires and wheels weigh 300 lbs. As long as their limits aren't exceeded, their weights could be deducted from the weight of the truck and added to the payload. The truck sits on these, not vice-versa. Just a thought..

 

I think It can. lol

 

Unlike the past generation, it's not just the blocks and overload springs that make it a 350. They finally gave it bigger axles. As to whether it will do it, I'm sure it will be fine with some airbags. I regularly had 3500 on my 09 F250 and with airbags and 350 blocks, it was level and towed like a champ. Just don't go out west where they weigh private vehicles. You're right about the garage offset too. Having your toys loaded in the rear will take some weight off the pin. If you have a fuel station back there, filling it will unload your pin further. We have a Road Warrior 30C that we are picking up next weekend. Can't wait to join the 5ver toyhauler ranks....

 

I want to see the rig and trailer when you get it! Please post up a picture!

 

Question, I have the same truck with the 10,000 option. Brochure says I have a payload of 3290.
Steve, you said it can handle 2900ish, I must not be understanding? I am looking into a fifth wheel trailer now. About 15,500. Now I am confused about the pin weight?

 

Just for reference, here is a screen capture from the 2011 Ford Specifications document. If it is not OK to post this, please let me know and I will pull it down. It was a downloadable public document.

 

Nyff30 what does the yellow sticker inside your drivers door show for cargo capacity? You really cant go by the brochure

 

It probably a 1000 lbs less than what the brochure says

 

Also remember what the max weight of the tires and wheels are - typically the wheels are around 3400lbs each and so are the e-rated tires (give or take a few pounds).

Leaves you a max of 6800lbs on the axle best case which is rated @ 6K, the new 350 is now (as someone stated) rated @ 7K. Therefore the axle would get to max before the tires on a 250, and for a 350 they pretty much both max together.

The reason I know this is I have a pretty heavy slide in camper and I was @6980lbs on the rear of my last truck which was a 3/4 ton and I was over on the axle and pushing the tires at max, and I was not OK with that so I moved up to the 1 ton.

Just make sure you take good care of those tires as they are the weakest link...which is why I am considering Rickson Wheels and F or G rated tires. Like my safety cushion