I have been doing some research on putting a tuner on the ecoboost. Seems that since the 6.0 mess Ford has gotten smarter. Also seems that some have blown the eco in the Taurus SHO's. It appears that a tuner, CAI, removing the cats and maybe even an aftermarket exhaust system can be grounds for warranty denial.

You can make up your own mind. Mine is staying stock.


I found this on yellow bullet, a racing forum:

To: All Ford and Lincoln Mercury Dealerships
Subject: Aftermarket Modifications – Warranty Cancellation

BACKGROUND
Aftermarket companies (referred to as "tuners") attempt to increase an engine's torque and power output beyond the design limits which may cause powertrain failures. This is often accomplished by modifying the engine calibration (referred to as "chipping") but may also include modifications or adjustments to other components. Per the Warranty Guide that is provided to the customer and the Warranty & Policy Manual, failures resulting from modifications are not warranted by Ford Motor Company.

All powertrains are subject to warranty cancellation if a modification causes a failure. For the 3.5L EcoBoost technical service bulletin TSB 10-2-6 was published to enable your technicians to determine:

If a powertrain failure resulted from an unauthorized modification
If the engine, transmission, or entire powertrain warranty should be cancelled
Per the inspection process included in this TSB a Ford Motor Company inspector may assist with this analysis. When the inspection process clearly indicates that a failure was caused by an unauthorized modification/alteration the repair should not be completed under Warranty and, using the following process, the vehicle's remaining Engine, Transmission, or Powertrain warranty should be cancelled.

WARRANTY CANCELLATION PROCESS
To initiate a warranty cancellation on an affected vehicle, submit a warranty cancellation request form through FMCDealer.com. This on-line form can be accessed as follows:

FMCDealer.com
Select Parts & Service tab
Select Warranty Administration & Parts Return
Select Warranty Cancellation / Reinstatement Request Form
Complete and submit this form on-line.

Once the warranty is cancelled an OASIS message will advise all dealerships that the vehicle is no longer eligible for warranty coverage


Here is the TSB

Review Service Procedure
SERVICE PROCEDURE



Unauthorized calibration modifications may or may not be detectable using standard tools (Integrated Diagnostic System (IDS), Portable Diagnostic Software (PDS), NGS+ VCM). Changes can be made to the calibration and flashed to the PCM through the OBD port. Physical modifications to the hardware may or may not be present. If aftermarket power/torque-increasing modifications are suspected, care should be taken to record and store the following items: Permanent Diagnostic Trouble Codes (DTCs), Pending DTCs, Freeze Frame Data, Mode 6 and Mode 9 data. The data should be printed and attached to the repair order for later reference.
The DTCs, freeze frame data, Mode 6 and 9 data can be obtained by using the IDS, PDS or NGS+VCM under tool box selection. The Powertrain tab will provide the OBD Test Modes tab and Mode 6 and 9 data selection after the vehicle has been identified.


Attempting to increase the engine output via recalibrating the PCM may result in poor drivability, DTCs, or component failures. A partial list of calibration induced component failures is given below:

• Piston damage.
• Spark over-advanced (knock-induced damage).
• Insufficient enrichment.

Excessive Cylinder Pressure:

• Turbocharger damage.

Over-Speed:

• Catalyst damage.

Over-Temperature/Melting:

• Transmission, PTU, Torque converter damage.

Hardware Modifications:





The following list contains items that are frequently modified in an effort to increase the engines torque/power output. Modifying these items may, or may not improve the performance, but can lead to drivability issues, DTCs and possibly component failures:

• Air induction system (air box, low pressure and high pressure air ducts).

The system may be particularly susceptible to flexible air ducts between the air filter and the compressors. Restrictions on either side of the compressor can result in over-speeding the turbo (Figures 5-6).

• Wastegate actuator pre-tension.

The full load output of some turbocharged engines will increase if the wastegate spring pre-tension is increased. This is not the case with the EcoBoost engine. Adjusting the wastegate pre-tension out of the specified range can result in DTCs. A tamper evident paint dot has been applied to the wastegate actuator adjustment mechanism to make modifications more apparent.

• Throttle inlet and intake manifold pressure sensors.

These sensors and the associated wiring should be inspected to verify they have not been modified.

• Additional fuel injection devices.

The high pressure fuel system used for the EcoBoost engine will not support additional fuel flow beyond what the factory calibration requests. Inspect the engine for an additional aftermarket injector(s) located somewhere in the induction system to provided increased fuel flow.

• PCV system modifications.

If the PCV system is modified (vented to atmosphere being the most common modification) it can result in a condition where oil gets past the turbine seal even on an undamaged, fully functional turbocharger. Oil in the exhaust system may not be sufficient evidence to identify a failed turbo if the PCV system has been compromised.

• Compressor bypass modifications (a.k.a. blow-off valve, or anti-surge valve).

It is common to modify these components so they make more noise. If the aftermarket devices fail to seal properly when closed, elevated turbo speeds and compressor outlet temperatures will occur.

• Exhaust air path/system.

Removal of catalysts or mufflers/resonators to reduce exhaust backpressure may result in over-speeding the turbo(s).

• Thermostat modifications.

Blocking open the thermostat may reduce the coolant flow to the turbo chargers. Wastegate Tamper Evident Paint Dot

 

You need to post a link to the information and your source.

 

As I said yellow bullet racing forum: Starting at about post 69. Got my Ecoboost F150..... - Page 5 - Yellow Bullet Forums

Any one can look up the TSB from Ford

 

What he's posting is fact. ANY modification to ANY of the turbocharged vehicles from Ford will win you a prize of immediate warranty termination. There were several Ecoboost Tauruses that were blown up by idiots pushing them too far, and post-6.0L PSD Ford finally get the message and encrypted ALL of those forced induction PCM's, and issues this no-tolerance policy on warranty repairs for those vehicles.
JL

 

No problem with the facts of the article. When posting information taken directly from an article on here, you need to post the link to the source. It has to do with copyrights, not the factual information.

 

On GM's there are "Approved" tunes available, but they are canned.

Now if you do something like HP tuners, and go to far you ace'd out.

Give it time. The tuners will show up when they figure they can get enough buisness to go through the trouble, and get Fords approval.

Or you can try HP Tuners and just go slowly. Soon enough there will be tuners who know how far you can safetly do it up.

 

I dunno what peeps are complaining about. When You buy a 'Tune' Your taking the chance of doing damage. Why in the Heck would You think Ford is responsible to fix the damage???

When You bought the vehicle, You KNEW this. When You bought the 'Tune' You knew it, also.

 

Really, can you point me where i can find out more about this?

I know they had some upgrades but it was factory given stuff not after market. Ford nor any manufacturer will let tuners mess with their car and sign off on the warranty. There's just too much liability doing that.

 

The ecoboost is highly capable in stock form, why mess with a good thing?

 

We were told a long time ago, if we see any mods, back off, stop repairs and report it.

 

Lol its human nature. We do it to everything. I suppose its because we can.

I for one would have a hard time not tinkering some with the ecoboost. But its a hard pill to swallow when you smoke a motor. And even harder pill to swallow when the wife has here hands around my neck for blowing up a new truck engine.

Haha.

 

Tuning does more than the just improve the performance of the engine, it can make the auto trans actually tolerable and remove a lot of the lag put in at the factory. Some of the tunes Ford put in their past vehicles were absolutely horrible. From what I'm reading the strategies of the current autos leave a lot to be desired, not surprising considering the fords past.

 

I only know a bit about GM products, becouse of my preveous truck. GMPP had a whole hop up kit that encluded a tuner, but Like I said it was canned and would only allow so much. There were also others that wouldn't void warrenties "gas only", but I went crazy.

I bought a copy of HP-Tuners becouse of its ability to do Ford and GM, and had a bit of a side deal doing tunes for people I knew. I sold the set-up to a friend of a friend, and went back to carbs.

On my GMC 1500 with a 4.8 I did the typical CAI, flowmaster with turndown, 1.8 roller rockers, Trail blazer convertor, 4.56 gear and a locker, and my tune. In the end it was just under 300 rwhp. So it could of been as high as 370 chp or as low as 350chp. Either way it was a vast improvement, and not much would get it down the block. Plus it still got the same hwy mpg as factory, but the city was alot higher then I remember it ever being. The problem was the 4.56 gears. I should of gone 3.93's, and it would of been better in my opinion.