f-150 Light Duty v6 Diesel?
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I was looking up some things for my truck and somehow i tracked to a whold artical on how dodge and ford were thinking about this. I asked some people i work with a diesel truck dealership and they said theyve heard it to. I dont know if its a rumor just thought id ask and see if anyone else has heard it or has an opinion.
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Backing up a bit, welcome to FTE.
When you come upon an article like that, it would be best to post a link to it in your thread. That generally gets the ball rolling on discussion, as people can see the info first hand and make their comment or find other info one way or the other.
Like so:
http://www.fordf150.net/diesel/
When you come upon an article like that, it would be best to post a link to it in your thread. That generally gets the ball rolling on discussion, as people can see the info first hand and make their comment or find other info one way or the other.
Like so:
http://www.fordf150.net/diesel/
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Personally I would love to see 1/2 ton's get the option of a small Diesel engine. But sadly I don't foresee it happening for along time...If ever.
Five or so years ago, it was all the rave, everyone wanted Ford, GM and Dodge to drop Light Duty Diesels into their 1/2 ton trucks. But two key things are preventing it from happening right now of they are...
#1 - With the governments ever increasing ''ridiculous'' emission standards, Diesel engine's have to have so much emission control equipment added to them in the factory for them to meet the governments requirements that it drive's the price to manufacture way up. So Auto companies have to charge insane amounts of money for a modern Diesel. Most Diesel's offered today in the heavy duty trucks, cost between 7,000 and 9,000 extra dollars over the gas engine offered, effectively turning what could be a 25,000$ truck into a near 40,000$ truck, also the extra emission equipment cause's fuel mileage to go down. Diesels 10 years ago could achieve 25mpg on the highway in a 1-ton truck. Today most Diesels get closer to 15mpg highway ''Pretty much the same as a large displacement gas engine''
#2 - Price of Diesel Fuel. 10-15 years ago, Diesel fuel was not that expensive, however today it often times can cost between 30cents and 50cents more per gallon than gasoline. So its can cost quite a bit more to fill up a diesel powered truck vs. a gasoline powered truck.
When automakers look at this, they try to decide if the consumer will be willing to pay the hefty price premium for a diesel engine...Both initially and in long term fuel cost. And as it seems to be turning out, the automakers don't seem to have much faith that a 1/2 ton diesel would sell very well. And that's why the diesel engines keep getting put on the back burner.
However, ''I know its not a true Diesel'' The Ecoboost engine from Ford works essentially like a Diesel engine. Lots of torque made at a low RPM. And plateau like Torque curve that keeps all that torque flowing consistently threw the RPM band ''Much like a Diesel''.
Five or so years ago, it was all the rave, everyone wanted Ford, GM and Dodge to drop Light Duty Diesels into their 1/2 ton trucks. But two key things are preventing it from happening right now of they are...
#1 - With the governments ever increasing ''ridiculous'' emission standards, Diesel engine's have to have so much emission control equipment added to them in the factory for them to meet the governments requirements that it drive's the price to manufacture way up. So Auto companies have to charge insane amounts of money for a modern Diesel. Most Diesel's offered today in the heavy duty trucks, cost between 7,000 and 9,000 extra dollars over the gas engine offered, effectively turning what could be a 25,000$ truck into a near 40,000$ truck, also the extra emission equipment cause's fuel mileage to go down. Diesels 10 years ago could achieve 25mpg on the highway in a 1-ton truck. Today most Diesels get closer to 15mpg highway ''Pretty much the same as a large displacement gas engine''
#2 - Price of Diesel Fuel. 10-15 years ago, Diesel fuel was not that expensive, however today it often times can cost between 30cents and 50cents more per gallon than gasoline. So its can cost quite a bit more to fill up a diesel powered truck vs. a gasoline powered truck.
When automakers look at this, they try to decide if the consumer will be willing to pay the hefty price premium for a diesel engine...Both initially and in long term fuel cost. And as it seems to be turning out, the automakers don't seem to have much faith that a 1/2 ton diesel would sell very well. And that's why the diesel engines keep getting put on the back burner.
However, ''I know its not a true Diesel'' The Ecoboost engine from Ford works essentially like a Diesel engine. Lots of torque made at a low RPM. And plateau like Torque curve that keeps all that torque flowing consistently threw the RPM band ''Much like a Diesel''.
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If that Indian truck company Mahindra actually makes it over here Like they're talking about, you'll see a 1/2 ton or less truck with a diesel engine. If they were to take off, you would then see others follow. Toyota already has diesel engines in their trucks/SUVs overseas, so most of their engineering on that is done.
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Up until a couple of years ago I was hell bent on getting a SD with a diesel. Fuel prices shot up, initial cost of a 6.7L is about $8000, fuel economy is good but not staggering and then you have to add urea every so often.
I'm not impressed with how the whole U.S. diesel thing has gone. (trying NOT to make this political). I think the Ecoboost is the perfect solution for the guy who needs diesel like performance and gas like maintenance.
I'm not impressed with how the whole U.S. diesel thing has gone. (trying NOT to make this political). I think the Ecoboost is the perfect solution for the guy who needs diesel like performance and gas like maintenance.
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Up until a couple of years ago I was hell bent on getting a SD with a diesel. Fuel prices shot up, initial cost of a 6.7L is about $8000, fuel economy is good but not staggering and then you have to add urea every so often.
I'm not impressed with how the whole U.S. diesel thing has gone. (trying NOT to make this political). I think the Ecoboost is the perfect solution for the guy who needs diesel like performance and gas like maintenance.
I'm not impressed with how the whole U.S. diesel thing has gone. (trying NOT to make this political). I think the Ecoboost is the perfect solution for the guy who needs diesel like performance and gas like maintenance.
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According to PickupTrucks.com, Dodge is considering one in the future. Supposedly GM has a baby Duramax ready to go, and Ford has the Mexico plant that can pour out the baby powerstrokes.
However I don't see any of them producing them. As was said diesel is too high. Yesterday I paid nearly 40 cents extra a gallon for diesel. A baby diesel with all of it's emission crap would probably cost $5000-6000. Then on top of that we already have an ecoboost putting out 420 ftlbs of torque. How much more do you want from a 1/2 ton?
Unless the diesel could do better on fuel economy loaded and unloaded (and I mean a whole lot better) they wouldn't sell many except to guys that want to mod them
However I don't see any of them producing them. As was said diesel is too high. Yesterday I paid nearly 40 cents extra a gallon for diesel. A baby diesel with all of it's emission crap would probably cost $5000-6000. Then on top of that we already have an ecoboost putting out 420 ftlbs of torque. How much more do you want from a 1/2 ton?
Unless the diesel could do better on fuel economy loaded and unloaded (and I mean a whole lot better) they wouldn't sell many except to guys that want to mod them
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Eg: The 4.4L V8 in the Range Rover puts out 230 kw / 700 Nm
Toyota sells a 4.5L V8 single turbo in the 70 series with: 145 kw / 430 Nm
the twin turbo in the LC200 puts out: 195 kw / 650 Nm
Toyotas are very mediocre.
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If I hadn't bought my daughter the 2010 Focus, I'd get a King Ranch for sure.