Dana 60 Locking Hub
 

Does anyone have an illustration of a Dana 60 locking hub assembly? I have mine apart and it seems there is a piece missing. The piece that seems to be missing is the spring backing plate. It should be the first piece installed when re-installing.

Are you talking about the spring seat that goes in against the outer bearing?

Jason

Yes, mine is missing that piece. If it is a necessary piece, where do I find one? Dana 60 fronts are hard to find around here.

I can help you, prolly even find one..I believe it's still available from Ford.

But..I need to know the year of the truck, and the axle ratio (if possible). I assume this is a 4500 lb. front axle.

I have to look up this part in the front axle section, and there are 30 (!!) different Dana 60 front axle applications used 1973/79.

Ask FTE member Mil1ion to post this illustration from the 1973/79 truck parts catalog:

SECTION 30 / PAGE 17 ~ Dana 60 front hub & axle parts ~ This may not be quite correct (yr specific, again), but it'll be close enough.

mil1ion, can you help with an illustration?

The truck is a 79 F350, Dana 60's front and rear. The axle ratio was originally a 3:54, but now has a 4:10. The code on the axle tag says it is a 61(??). I dont have the original door i.d. plate, but I do have the one that is attached to the engine compartment firewall. If you need that one let me know.

That illustration ref I posted above is correct for your truck. No other info is needed since you have an F350 4WD, but before going any further, I'd like to have you look at the pic.

I suggest you send Mil1ion an email or a p/m. This is a busy place, and he may not see this thread.

NOTE: Hub Illustration only = SECTION 10 / PAGE 19 shows a general discription of the hub.


btw: I'm using the parts catalog on microfiche, Mil1ion is using the CD version.

Is this what you need ?
http://i262.photobucket.com/albums/ii99/mfix78/d60.jpg
sorry bout having to stand on your head

Yes m78,
I am missing the spring retainer ring. Does anyone know where to get one? Does anyone have an extra one to sell? Thanks guys

It isn't missing, according to the parts catalog...there isn't one listed for a 1979 F350 4WD.

I'd like to have you look at the front axle pic ref I mentioned above to make sure it's not some other part number.

The number for that retainer in the pic just posted is basic Ford part number 1A055, but there isn't one listed for yours.

1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalog ~ 1979 F350 4WD ~ Front Axle Parts Lists: 30.5AA / 30.5R / 30.5S / 30.5Z

None of the above parts lists (and that's all there are for this yr and model) show the: 1A055 .. Lockout Hub Pressure Spring Retainer.

Okay, if it is not missing then I can proceed. I am willing to do what ever will make it right. I am curious what seperates the spring from the bearing face? It would seem that something would be between the two. I pm'ed mil1ion for the illustration. Hopefully he will get the pm and have a diagram.

Your illustration that Bill mentioned will be up shortly


Please be advised that Autozone has a repair section .

http://www.autozone.com/az/cds/en_us...rInfoPages.htm


http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i7...Hubfor1979.jpg

If it has the spring, it is supposed to have the retainer to keep the bearing and the spring from mingling.

1Ford1, are you missing it on one side or have you disassembled the other?
Do you have factory hubs on it still? If you have aftermarket hubs, you normally get rid of the spring and retainer.

Jason

I have the original hubs. I have not been able to get to the other side yet because of kid duty. If in fact I do need this retainer, does anyone have an extra one (maybe two) for sale? Or is this a Ford part that can still be purchased? What different years will coss reference? Thanks for all of the help.

See Dennis' illustration of the hub? When I went to the appropriate parts lists in the catalog, there's no 1A055 RETAINER listed for the OP's application.

There is a SPRING listed: D8TZ-1A054-A.

The hub itself (D8TZ-1104-E) fits one 1988 F250 with a parts list of # 30.5AA (4500 lb. capacity with a 4.09 ratio only), and all the 1979 F250/F350's with parts lists of 30.5AA / 30.5R / 30.5S / 30.5Z / which are the only parts lists shown for F350 4WD's.

That's why I wanted the OP to see a pic of the entire front axle and hub assembly (Section 30-page 17), to see if he could pick out another part number, because I don't see anything else.

Suggestion, go to your local Ford dealer and see what they come up with.

I was just looking at the Warn hubs and they want $175 a piece for these things. That is crazy. I will have to find a used retainer from someone or a salvage yard. I would be curious as to what Ford charges, if they still offer them.

There is a spring retainer shown for most F250's, and other models (C4TZ-1A055-A), but not for one particular 1978 F250 4WD model, and no 1979 F250/F350 4WD's.

I have three separate 1973/79 Ford Light Truck Parts Catalogs on microfiche: first printing of 1979, 1981, and the last printing of 10/88.

None show that retainer for an F350. It must have something to do with the hub (D8TZ-1104-E), which only fits the two models.

Have you checked the Dana web site ?

Dennis, use your parts catalog, go to text section 30, page 6 in the front axle parts list applications...see what parts lists are shown there for 1979 F350 4WD's.
Now go to the parts lists themselves.

30.5AA is in section 30.5, page 24, the other three are in section 30.5, page 12.

Read down the columns....whadda you see for basic part number 1A055 under those appropriate parts lists?

I see nothing!

Post this illustration: Section 30 / page 17..1976/79 F250 4WD & 1979 F350 4WD = the entire front axle assembly is shown.

To verify 1979 F250/350 4x4 designation

RE: Image at bottom of post

With regards to the chart the axle codings for 79 f250/350 are:
S
AA
R
Z

Read down the columns....whadda you see for basic part number 1A055 under those appropriate parts lists?

Page 24.
Nothing for application AA
2 for AB
2 for AC

Page 12 application N,P,Q,U

N-2
P-2
Q-2
U-2


http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i7...79F250-350.jpg

My guess is that axle is a Dana 61. :)


I didn't notice you posting a BOM number from that axle.

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i7...axleparts5.jpg

In post #5 I listed the tag said 61. I was always told that it was a Dana 60 and they were labeled 61's because they were the front axle version. I am assuming this is incorrect. I am learning more every day from this sight. Thank you to everyone.

I attempted read the tag and this is as close as I can get:
4:10 D9?A?A6D
610023-?

The question marks are either elegible or missing a character.
Does this help?

As you can see below ...my book doesn't show that application in the chart.

Perhaps Bill's newer edition does ?

http://i69.photobucket.com/albums/i7...artNumbers.jpg

You may be reading too far into this. The 80's model trucks with Dana 50s and 60's used a Warn design locking hub that did not use an external spring. 78-79 Dana 60's used a Spicer locking hub which used the spring. The wheel hubs don't make a difference as the aftermarket locking hubs will fit either way.

FYI, the Dana 61 is merely a rear application Dana 60 with a specific housing and carrier to run tall, fuel economy gearing (3.08's). There are no D61's used in a Ford front end.

Jason

There no suffix of A6D listed in the parts catalog.

It's prolly this: Ford # D9TA-ACD / Dana # 610023-6 / Dana 60 / 4.10-1 / Free Running Hubs / non Limited Slip / 4500 lb. Front Axle Capacity / > > Parts List # 30.5AA < <

Since the hub only fits one 1978 F250 application & 1979 F250/350's, and there no spring retainer shown, the hub prolly has a design change inside that allows for the retainer to be eliminated.

But...I'd be the first to admit that I'm not that familiar with 4WD's because I worked in Los Angeles for 35 years, and unlike today, there weren't too many of these 4WD trucks around in the LA area back then.

The last time it snowed in LA LA Land was 1949.

Ppl back then didn't buy these trucks as everyday daily drivers. Around here today, they're everywhere.

Well, if you look at the aftermarket, the hubs never changed between 78-79.
I've parted a few 60's from both years and they've always had the spring retainer with factory hubs.

I've never worked in Ford parts, but I have worked Toyota and Chrysler parts. So I know how numerous updates and supercessions can lead back to one part number to cover multiple superceded ones. It is confusing to say the least.

Jason

Okay, So there may be a need for the retainer but there is no part number to search for. I seem to always have the odd parts and pieces. I will probably have to buy new Warn hubs. I might try to look at a newer model and see if they will work. Thank you guys for all of the help with this.

Using 30 yr old part numbers can be a real pain, but this appears to be easier than this whole thing has played out.
The dana 60 axle was used by all of the big three, and all of these parts are almost a direct replacement. The exception would be the spindle length, and stub shaft length, but for this purpose, pretty much identical.
Since you have one locking hub assembly that is good, why not take it apart, clean it up, and use it to identify the missing components? You can then, with parts in hand run down to the nearst dealership. I would actually run down to the chevy dealership, since these 60 axles were available for a longer period than the ford or dodge.
With the correct parts in hand, you can easily match up the identical components.
This should be a very easy fix.

If not, are these original Spicer units?????????
If Yes, care to sell them, even if one is incomplete????? Could help offset the cost of brand new Warns..... Pm me if interested please.

How about here ?

http://www2.dana.com/expertforms/demenu.aspx

Thanks mil1ion,

I was trying to research Dana/Spicer site but had no luck. You are the man. I found that retainer is a deleted item on this hub. I was going tp post the quote but I couldn't. Thanks for all of the help.

Thanks Numberdummy, you were right. I am in the middle of working on the other side now.